"The Newly Arriving Canadians..." Landed at Greenock, Scotland
"They entered upon their first training at H.M.S. Tormentor"
Original caption: "Chuck Rose, Grenock central station, Glasgow 1942"
Photo used with permission from Joe Spencer's family, Ontario
From Greenock to HMCS Niobe, then to Hayling Island
Doug Harrison, on guard for thee, "at Northney, east of Southampton" 1942
For me, the book entitled The Far Distant Ships by Joseph Schull is a fine Canadian Navy history book as well as a powerful flashlight. Related to the Royal Canadian Navy (RCN) and Royal Canadian Navy Volunteer Reserve (RCNVR) and their significant role during WWII, this book is a prime source of information published in 1950, five years after the war's end. Also, it shines a light on many important details and activities that involved approximately 1,000 members of the RCNVR who started volunteering for a British organization called Combined Operations beginning in December, 1941, including my father, a 21-year-old sailor from the wee village of Norwich, Ontario.
He signed up for duty in Hamilton (at Hamilton Division 1, later renamed HMCS Star) and later, in June of 1941 along with most members of the Effingham Division (out of HMCS Stadacona, Halifax NS) volunteered for Combined Operations.
They were the first draft or division of Canadian sailors to do so, and were soon shipped off to the UK for initial training about - and later aboard - landing crafts.
On page iii of the Forward of Volume 1 above I read the following:
Another end (i.e., re collecting and sharing veterans' stories concerning Combined Operations, WWII) was to gain an historical perspective, a task which we tried to set ourselves but which was not or incompletely accomplished. We would like to have followed up all those of the ranks and ratings who left Canada for training in the RN, many to earn commissions. Could we have learned about the Canadians in the series of pin-prick raids of ''Winston's Murder Gangs" as they were termed by (renowned author) Evelyn Waugh who was for some while tolerated by the Commandos as one of their members?
The Effingham Division at HMCS Stadacona, 1941. Property of
Doug Harrison (bottom 3rd left; died February 6, 2003, age 83)
and son Gord H. age 76 in London, Ontario, Canada
Joseph Schull writes:
From Chapter 7 "Operation Torch", page 145
That there were "some already in England" (see above) may be interpreted to mean 'very few' and even that is very hard to verify. There is a book of Canadian Navy veterans' stories entitled St. Nazaire to Singapore: The Canadian Amphibious War 1941 - 1945 (edited by David Lewis, Len Birkenes, Kit Lewis, mid-1990s) that shares some (3 pages) about the early entrants to Combined Operations and I found 4 verifiable names mentioned.
Another end (i.e., re collecting and sharing veterans' stories concerning Combined Operations, WWII) was to gain an historical perspective, a task which we tried to set ourselves but which was not or incompletely accomplished. We would like to have followed up all those of the ranks and ratings who left Canada for training in the RN, many to earn commissions. Could we have learned about the Canadians in the series of pin-prick raids of ''Winston's Murder Gangs" as they were termed by (renowned author) Evelyn Waugh who was for some while tolerated by the Commandos as one of their members?
Several Canadians (meaning four up to that date), particularly John O'Rourke and perhaps others, were active in the dangerous but remarkably effective attack on Saint Nazaire which occurred in early 1942, an historical achievement in itself. These brave men are mentioned further on.
'Further on' must mean pages 37 - 39 in the books (Volumes 1 and 2) that David Lewis helped compile and publish. John O'Rourke and 3 others - Surgeon-Lieut. W. J. Winthrop of Saskatoon (posthumous Mention in Despatches), Lt. G. McN. Baker, RCNVR from Toronto (posthumous Mention in Despaptches), and Lt. D.L Davies of Montreal (casualty and Prisoner of War) - are mentioned in an account re the St. Nazaire raid and an excerpt from a volume of Salty Dips (4).
The first paragraph of the account follows:
and go to pages 37 - 39.
St. Nazaire is listed on a stone memorial found on the original site of HMS Quebec (Combined Operations Number 1 Training Camp) just south of Inveraray, Scotland:
Photo by G. Harrison while visiting HMS Quebec, 2012, with Geoff Slee
and Jim Jepson and their wives during a trip overseas from Canada
(Questions or comments about the above can be sent to gordh7700@gmail.com)
Though there are precious few details about the four early, Canadian entrants to Combined Operations, information is readily available, however, from a few sources about "their first training at HMS Tormentor, the combined operations which was now established at Northney east of Southampton." From details I have collected the sailors called the base HMS Northney (I - IV), located south of Havant (aka Hants?) on Hayling Island.
HMS Tormentor (no. 31) and HMS Northney (I - IV) (no. 29) are seen in
separate locations on the map above. Map - found in Combined Operations
by Londoner Clayton Marks (See details about Clayton's text here)
By way of reading memoirs of two young Canadian sailors, members of the first and second drafts to Combined Operations, we can learn a wee bit about their first lessons re landing crafts:
Please click here to view some of the details that I have compiled about training on Hayling Island. And, please click here to view Arts of War: Drawings of Landing Crafts, and D-Day 1944 which depicts the first landing crafts Canadians saw - in drawings - at HMS Northney (I - V) in early 1942.
About Northney I my father writes the following in memoirs:
I had the misfortune to break the toe next to my big toe on my left foot. I went to sick bay and someone applied mercurochrome, told me to carry out my usual duties and sent me away. Running, guard duty, anything, I toughed it out and was told many months later by a Scottish doctor it had healed perfectly - and so it had.
Doug on guard duty at Northney with “a rifle with no ammunition”
We were issued brooms for guard duty in some cases at Northney, sometimes a rifle with no ammunition, and they were expecting a German invasion. Rounds were made every night outside by officers to see if we were alert and we would holler like Hell, “Who goes there? Advance and be recognized.” When you hollered loud enough you woke everyone in camp, so sentry duty was not so lonesome for a few minutes.
There was no training here (at Northney), so, as the navy goes, we went back to Niobe on March 21, 1942. I recall just now we were welcomed to Niobe by Lord Hee Haw (a turncoat) from Germany via the wireless radio.
Thence to H.M.S. Quebec barracks in Ayrshire, Scotland on Loch Fyne. ("Dad, Well Done", pages 11 - 12)
About H.M.S. Northney another Canadian sailor writes:
Some nights I stood guard duty at the end of a long pier, as lookout for German raiding parties. In the lonely darkness of the night, this inexperienced 18 year old discovered the power of the imagination! It seemed that the end of the watch would never come.... I was gaining a sense of the terrible nature of modern warfare, as I realised in my imaginings how easily they could be turned into brutal and bloody reality.
At the end of the training period, around February or March 1942, we returned to HMCS Niobe for a few weeks until our next training base was ready for us. In peacetime the building was an old insane asylum and a hospital. While there, I worked in the pantry, so I was able to 'procure' the odd half-pound of butter for my friends in Renfrew. Glasgow was a popular hangout for the Canadian Navy. It was then a big dirty seaport but we always felt quite welcome. The Lacarno Dance Hall was a favourite haunt, where we were sure to find out what Canadian ships were in port. Surprisingly, the Lacarno was a 'dry' dance hall but one of the best for dancing, the main part of the floor being built on springs. The 'no alcohol' rule was enforced at the door too. A hostess, in a fancy tux, stood guard with a cane, which she used to tap pockets for concealed bottles. One night she tapped my jacket as usual and thought she had found a bottle. When she discovered it was a .45 Smith & Wesson, she immediately checked it for me until I left.
Lloyd Evans at home in Ottawa (before or after 1942?)
Atop their landing craft (in England?), Canadians in Combined Ops
Lloyd Evans (back row, 2nd from right), Doug Harrison (front right)
Photos from the Lloyd Evan's Collection, with permission
In April '42, we returned to the familiar surroundings of Hayling Island, only this time to HMS Northney I a few miles from the first base we'd used. This one had previously been a summer holiday camp of chalets with two bedrooms, a small sink in each room and no heating. In the winter months, there was usually an icicle hanging from the tap when we arose in the mornings! I used my navy mattress at night in an often vain attempt to keep warm. Meals were served in a large central dining room, which was a welcome relief from the cold. The RN types couldn’t imagine why we complained about the cold, since we came from the land of ice and snow - not appreciating that our Canadian homes were, out of absolute necessity, well insulated and properly heated.
Like the proverbial yo-yo, we returned to Scotland but this time to HMS Quebec situated on the shores of Loch Fyne near Inveraray. (My Naval Chronicle by Lloyd Evans, page 9, with a big assist from Geoff Slee, Scotland)
My father does not write about holding over as did Lloyd at HMCS Niobe, a Canadian land establishment (likely a transit depot) in Scotland, or the return trip to Northney for a second round of training. Later, when in Scotland, my father writes extensively about training aboard landing crafts in Irvine - and Lloyd does not. Where they assigned to different flotillas with a different schedule at times? I can only guess. Questions or comments are welcome here - gordh7700@gmail.com
Schull writes that the small first draft of Canadian officers and ratings next went on to HMS Quebec for more advanced training "at Inveraray in Scotland." Many accounts have been written and many photographs have been taken to inform us about the Number 1 Training Camp for Combined Operations.
Link to Geoff Slee's website about Combined Ops training there.
After his time at HMS Northney and HMS Tormentor (both on England's south coast) my father moved north to at least 5 camps related to Combined Operations in north-west Scotland. (He recalls time at HMS Quebec (near Inveraray), Camp Auchengate (near Irvine), Chamois (just south of HMS Quebec), Roseneath and another camp on Loch Long, possibly related to training with commandos.
He was moved about so often he had trouble with setting clear timelines for where he was and when. I do know that he did not complain about the hard work related to the training he went through aboard landing crafts.
He writes about leaving HMS Northney (south) to go north:
Troops train on landing craft at Loch Fyne, south of Inveraray
Scotland, 1942. Photo credit - Imperial War Museum (IWM)
Boy, but was it dark up there amongst the heather and the hills. As well, gambling in any form was not allowed in the navy for fear the losers might steal, but a friendly game of craps with pennies was going on one night when rounds were being made. O/S Bradfield of Simcoe, the winner, couldn’t sweep the pennies under his hat fast enough and was caught and severely punished.
We did much running up on beaches so soldiers could disembark and re-embark, always watching the tide if it was flowing in or going out. You could be easily left high and dry, or broach too, if you weren’t constantly alert. We took long trips at night in close single formation, like ducks closed up close, because all you could see was the florescent waters churned up by propellors of an ALC or LCM (landing craft mechanized) ahead.
ALCs carried soldiers and LCMs carried soldiers or a truck, a Bren gun carrier, supplies, land mines, gasoline, etc. ALCs were made of 3/16th inch plating, thick enough to stop a .303. LCMs wouldn’t stop a bullet. ALCs sat three rows of soldiers including two outside rows under 3/16th inch cowling, but the center row was completely exposed.
We clambered up scrambling nets and Jacob’s ladders and became very proficient because we learned to just use our hands. We did this training on a liner called the Ettrick, which we will hear more about later on. Her free board was high, i.e., the distance between the water line and hand rails, and we got so it took about three seconds to drop 25 - 30 feet on scrambling nets. ("Dad, Well Done", pages 12 - 13)
Please click on the following links to read more details concerning Doug Harrison's training (and other activities, e.g., while on leave) connected to Inveraray, Irvine, etc.
Memoirs re Combined Operations "DAD, WELL DONE" Navy Memoirs (4)
While on leave Doug Harrison would travel to 'Dragon' (his spelling) with the son of the Cricksmere family (see above links) for "last call." In my opinion, after checking with a friendly gent at my favourite pub in Irvine (when on my trip to Scotland in 2012) - about the Scottish pronunciation of the village near Irvine seen in the postcard below - my father did not travel to 'Dragon' at all!
"So, how do you pronounce the name of this village down the road?" I asked
"Drraaygun!" he says
More information and WWII Combined Ops History will follow from The Far Distant Ships by J. Schull, as time permits : )
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